Greg emphasizes that evil has no respect for the banality of our goodness or morality. RD voices that evil can be hard to talk about, but we have to talk about it.
Greg transitions into discussing the
anti-hero, and having sympathy for the sinner while pushing into and cultivating the good.
RD spends time talking about explaining good versus evil versus sin as a parent to your children, and the difference between just telling your child no and explaining why something is wrong.
RD closes by reiterating how important it is to name evil in the world, and Greg cautions listeners to make sure we are not calling evil things good.